Is Jesus God, or are they separate beings?

Is Jesus God, or are they separate beings? 

One of the most significant prayer in scripture, surround the conversation Jesus had with the Father in John 17. If God and Jesus were the same, Jesus would not pray to himself.

 

Consider the following…. In John 1–44 you have the account of Jesus raising Lazarus from he dead, there are few points of note in context.

 

John 11:11 - Jesus speaks of the condition of Lazarus, even though he was dead!

 

11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.

 

Here we see that Jesus made a statement of faith with respect to Lazarus condition.

 

John 11:41–44 -Jesus refers to His earlier comment about Lazarus being asleep and not dead, Jesus did this because He knew that God is always listening.

 

41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.

 

42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.

 

43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.

 

44 And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.

 

There are other scriptures that tell us that God is always listening, regardless of our attitudes or dispositions at any given time.

 

Numbers 11:1King James Version (KJV)

 

11 And when the people complained, it displeased the Lord: and the Lord heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the Lord burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp.

 

Numbers 12:1-8

 

1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.

 

2 And they said, Hath the Lord indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the Lord heard it.

 

3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.)

 

4 And the Lord spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out.

 

5 And the Lord came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth.

 

6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.

 

7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house.

 

8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the Lord shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?

 

There are a many scriptures that depict the nature of Gods relationship with Jesus, all of which depict a relationship which requires separate persons.

 

“And He came and took the book out of the right hand of Him that sat upon the Throne” (Rev 5:7)

 

This describes Jesus taking the book out of God’s right hand while God was sitting on His Throne in Heaven.

 

There are two Thrones in Heaven of note, God’s and Jesus’ (Rev 3:21). Christ Throne is the subject of the judgment seat of Christ, which is where Jesus judges the Saints for their work on Earth, and how they kept the faith ‘We shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ” (Romans 14:10-12; 2 Corinthians 5:10).

 

There are two events, one is that Christians must go before the judgment seat of Christ and give account of oneself. This is in fact a judgment, the judgment God has given to Jesus.

 

“for the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the son” (John 5:22)

 

“Ye judge after the flesh, I judge no man” (John 8:15, 50)

 

Here, Jesus speaks of man’s final judgment.

 

“There is one that seeketh and judgeth” (John 8:50)

 

Jesus is speaking of God here.

 

On the surface, it appears that Jesus is saying that God does not judge man, but that Jesus does, then it suggest that God judges. The context is important in order to make the distinctions. Jesus is on His Throne in Heaven, and all the people are brought before the presence of God. This is at the Great White Throne Judgment. Jesus separates the goats from the sheep (Matthew 25:32).

 

“And before Him shall be gathered all nations, and He shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats” (Matthew 25:31-46).

 

Let’s place a scene of what this may look like in action as an example, purely an example, because in truth, nobody knows the particulars.

 

Example

 

There are two Thrones in Heaven, side by side (Rev 3:21). Jesus’ Throne is on God’s right hand side (Matthew 26:64; Mark 16:19; 1 Peter 3:22; Hebrews 12:2).

 

As you face Christ He will be to your left-side, God will be on your right side. The judgment that God has given to Jesus are relegated to your life on Earth, whether or not you accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior, your works in the faith. This first distinguishes you as a sheep, being a follower of Christ, or a goat, not a follower of Christ.

 

“And He shall set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left” (Matthew 25:33).

 

Now, this places the goats on Jesus left hand side, which places all the goats directly in front of God on His Throne. Jesus’ left hand side is God’s right hand side, or in front of God’s Throne from the audiences’ view. If you are a sheep, you go into an area in Heaven and await your descent into the New Jerusalem that God will create on the Earth.

 

This is Christ judgment on man, outside of the rewards He will have already given man at the judgment seat of Christ, which takes place “prior” to the thousand year reign. Even those who went into Hell “after” the deception of Satan, are in front of this judgment. This example has taken us to the final judgment and what is to happen there.

 

“inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world” (Matthew 25:34).

 

There are two points to make here. The first is that God prepared this place for mankind, long before man was created. It was prepared at the same time God created the foundations of the world. The foundations of the world were created some time after God created the Angels. The Angels were present when God fastened the foundations of the Earth and laid the cornerstone for it (Job 38:6-7). It was some time after all that, when God prepared this place in Heaven for all mankind. This “place” is the New Jerusalem (Rev 21:10-27).

 

Notice, it comes down out of Heaven.

 

“Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love Him” (1 Corinthians 2:9)

 

If you are a goat, on Christ’s left side, you will go into the Lake of Fire.

 

“Then shall He say also unto them on his left hand, depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the Devil and his Angels” (Matthew 25:41)

 

Jesus is judging those who are His, if you are not Christ’s, Jesus is stating the obvious when He says:

 

“Depart from me ye cursed into everlasting punishment”

 

There are only two ways this scene can go, if you’re not Christ’s then you’re fire bound no matter what. It is at this point in the action, that all the false prophets and such, try to claim service and Jesus dismisses them (Matthew 7:21-23).

 

The judgment that God has given Jesus to make is if “you” are “His”. Jesus Himself said of God,

 

“And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul, but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in Hell” (Matthew 10:28)

 

In this example if you belong to Christ, the judgment flows differently (2 Cor. 5:10; 1 Cor. 3:12-15):

 

Jesus tries your works on Earth to determine if they are worthy of reward. This is the second aspect of His judgment. The first is to answer the question, are you His? The second is what you get for your rewards. This is a completely separate issue from being saved. The works judgment simply determines if the work you did was in the right spirit or if you were “giving to get” in any aspect of recognition, return on investment or some kind of position.

 

The judgment seat of Christ is not about condemnation but the separation of the lost and the judgment of the Saints for reward.

 

“Behold, I come quickly and my reward is with me, to give every man according to his work shall be” (Rev 22:12).

 

“And there was found no place for them” (Rev 20:11)

 

* This refers to those who fled away from the face of God, which is all those who are lost through all time. This includes all those from the time of Adam to the crucifixion who went into Hell.

 

* All those who died in the tribulation and Armageddon, that were not Saints of God.

 

* All those Saints that were deceived by Satan after the thousand year reign.

 

* All those from the resurrection to the rapture who were not saved.

 

With all that said, the distinction is clear that God Himself is the one on the Great White Throne and not “Jesus”.

 

There are many other ways that scripture makes the distinction from Jesus and God the Father, consider what Jesus said himself.

 

John 16:28

 

I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

 

John 6:38

 

For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

 

John 14:31

 

But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

 

John 5:19

 

Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

 

John 1:1

 

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

 

John 10:30

 

I and my Father are one.

 

John 6:44

 

No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

 

John 14:28

 

Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

 

John 8:49

 

Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.

 

John 10:15

 

As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

 

John 15:10

 

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

 

Matthew 26:39

 

And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

 

Consider some of what Jesus said himself.

 

John 16:28

I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

 

John 6:38

For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

 

John 14:31

But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

 

John 5:19

Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

 

John 1:1

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

 

John 10:30

I and my Father are one.

 

John 6:44

No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

 

John 14:28

Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

 

John 8:49

Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.

 

John 10:15

As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

 

John 15:10

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

 

Matthew 26:39

And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

 

Please reload

BEHIND THE FAITH - THE BOOKS

© 2019 Tony Mariot - Behind The Faith